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Obscure 2D Gaming

Posted by TomFulp - November 14th, 2007


When we got set up at the office two years ago, I brought all my old video game systems out of storage so they could have another run. One of the games I was most excited to play was Overhauled Man 3, a PC Engine (TurboGrafx in US) CD game I had imported from Japan back in 1992.


OHM3 always had a special place in my heart because it had this fun non-stop feel to it. It wasn't the greatest game ever made, but you could tell they were trying to give you lots of eye candy and variety so nothing ever felt dull. You had an attack (sword) button and a jump button, and holding down your attack button let you fire off a sparkling fireball, which you could then (barely) control if you pressed down the button and held it again after releasing. This let you stear the fireball into enemies in the air, or even loop around completely... There was something fun and unique about it.


This was also a year before Gunstar Heroes, one of the most inspirational games of my life. Both had similar graphical styles, although GH was better designed and had a lot more explosions.


Still, I consider OHM3 to be one of those games that inspired the games I make today. I was excited to play it again... But alas, my CD reader no longer worked.


This past week, I downloaded (and had to register - wtf) an emulator called Magic Engine. So far I haven't been able to get any rom files from old CD games to load, but I CAN put my old CDs in the CD drive and load them up just like my PC was a TurboGrafx! I am finally able to play OHM3 again, and the emulation seems perfect. The load times are a lot better now, too! It's starting to show its age, but I still love it.


We've been playing a lot of oldschool arcade games lately - looking for those bits of 2D inspiration. Since I'm working on Castle Crashers, I really enjoy studying oldschool brawlers. I'm an especially big fan of that forgotten period in the 90s, where the arcade games were too good for the SNES and Genesis, but not up to the 3D standards (or RAM limitations) of the Playstation and Nintendo 64 that would follow. Stuff like The Punisher, Battletoads (arcade version) and Violent Storm.


I like oddities, such as the Spiderman brawler where the camera zooms out and switches to a platformer mid-level. I feel like no other brawlers really did that. I've been tinkering with a level in Castle Crashers that becomes a shooter mid-level. It feels totally natural and intuitive, IMO. I've always liked games that changed up genres and introduced variety, but I never liked it when I felt like I was playing a different game from one level to the next. You gotta keep it natural - let the players feel like they've been controlling the same character the whole time. It has to be a seamless transition. I'm hoping I nail it.


We're starting to catalogue the really obscure brawlers and shooters we've been discovering. More on that later.


On a totally random note, the Battletoads arcade game has to be the only game where you can grab enemies by the balls and punch them repeatedly. It's pretty awesome. If you give yourself a delay between punches, it releases the grab move and you can start it up again immediately without the enemy countering you. This allows you to do an infinite ball punch at your liesure, although the enemy doesn't seem to take damage until you finish the combo, so you can punch them in the balls like 100 times and they will still be alive afterwards.


Note: The ball grab is a context sensitive grab move that is specific to one enemy type in the game.


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OVER A HUNDRED BALL PUNCHES!! WOW!!

And ow....

Dude......a sea robot. I need more sea robots.
NEXT GAME I DO IS ABOUT SEA ROBOTS NO ONE STEAL MY IDEA KTHX!

Also....fighting amphibians you say?

In the image it looks like the boy is gonna punch the girl.

I feel a dance coming on...
*Does chicken dance.*

I didn't see whats very great about Gunstar...
Since you stated once it was your favorite game ever, I decided to download it on the Wii. Its probably just me and my brother, but we didn't have much fun playing it. It was too short and repetitive.
I want my 800 points back! >: (

Both my parents are gamers. When my Dad bought a N64 (my first game system) They played Mario Party 2 all night that saturday Owo

The both have weird games that they like too.
My Dads fav is pretty much any golf game, and my Moms fav is Diner Dash.

That picture looks like something from Ranma 1/2....
The guy looks like Male Ranma and the girl looks like Female Ranma.

I'm replying to this 11 years late but that's a cinema from Overhauled Man 3, since I never specifically noted that in the post. And yeah they are pretty Ranma-like. There was a Ranma vs fighter on Turbo Grafx CD as well that was kinda cool.

awesome! I'd totally ball punch that.

W00T!!!!

Wicked!

Where are the good old days? Pixels? Mario with a brown mo?

And, between you and me, I don't like those new "revivals".

Good to know that someone is proud of good old Atari machines running DOS and playing, well, quixotic(?) games!

Have you ever heard of Game Cabinets? My friend got a hold of one and we played it for hours. It basically emulates any game system and has (just about) every retro game ever made and all of its versions. Check it out - <a href="http://www.gamecabinetsinc.com/upright.shtml">http://www.gamecabinetsinc.com/uprigh t.shtml</a>
I honestly played it all night and am dieing to get back over there.

We've been talking about getting one for the office. I dunno when, tho.

Haha I remember I played Street Gangs on NES when I was young.. That game was so much fun. I miss the good ol' brawlers.

Uhhhh..... What game is that in the snapshot?

That's from the ending of OHM3.

"Nice one Tom" >: (

To tell the truth, it takes a whole lot of love and ingenuitiy to get me to play a 3D shooter/brawler type game. I'm generaly 2D all the way when it comes to that stuff... My 3D games are platorformers, adeventure, and strategy usually. A rare FPS here and there could do it. Or soemthing like the Punisher PC game where the tortures ruled.

I'm really looking forward to when people see the Behemoth and go, "Those are the dude who brought solid, well thought out, creative, and actually fun gaming back from the dead."

It's a shame I don't have a 360 atm, but hopefully I grab one for Castle Crashers.

I still believe the 1980's remains the best era in gaming. People were really willing to experiment and test the waters a bit when it came to game design. I mean, the home console market didn't really take off until the late 70's with the 2600 and the spread of gaming cabinets, so they didn't really have much to look back on or compare quality to; i think that resulted in some amazing styles and gameplay that we have lost to time and to the current industry getting stuck in niche gaming schemes.

I had to buy about 4 wire adapters to do it, but my SNES and NES sit happily connected to my office computer, with Journey to Silius (AMAZING arranged music) and Super Mario Bros 2 waiting to be played. There's nothing like the feel of a flat two button controller in hand :).

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Nice! We've been playing with game pads on Stamper's computer. Today we played through Escape from the Planet of the Robot Monsters... I hadn't played that since it was in arcades in '89. In my memory I saw it as such a perfect game. When we finally got it up and running, it wasn't as stunning as I remembered... But still a blast. The fun part was competing for who could save the most hostages in each level.

That's the cool opportunity we have now, though... The Robot Monsters in my mind was this really smooth really slick game, but the game I actually played was pretty choppy. But if I wanted to, I could try to make a game that plays like it did in my memory - all fast and smooth. That's like what Castle Crashers is to me... It embodies all my memories of playing classic brawlers, but it plays a lot faster and smoother.

^ Seconded.. TROG was freaking awesome. One of my all time favourite games on the NES. PAC MAN with dinosaurs that ate pineapples to turn into a T-Rex.. WHILST eating cavemen.. What more could you want.

Classic videogames really rocks!

That is very... touching, Tom. I was never really into that sort of game at the time, but I remember falling in love with another obscure platformer: Kirby. Peppy music, addictive gameplay, hilariously cutesy graphics... Sigh... If only I didn't just rent them...

Might try to get some old memories back here, all retro PC games you can imagine.

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Good stuff.

Belive me, those 2D games are the best games I have, even if are from few years ago, I still get the classic control and style ones.

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